てまで details
write + (and…) + going so far as to — at a price the speaker judges too high
kaite made
going so far as to — at a price the speaker judges too high
meaning: going so far as to write
家族との時間を削ってまで働きたくはない。
kazoku to no jikan o kezutte made hatarakitaku wa nai.
I don't want to work going so far as to cut into my time with my family. neutral
徹夜までして仕上げたのに、結局ボツになっちゃった。
tetsuya made shite shiageta noni, kekkyoku botsu ni natchatta.
I pulled an all-nighter to get it finished and in the end it got scrapped. casual
- て-form
- noun
Examples
going so far as to — the lengths gone to are named, and treated as excessive
家族との時間を削ってまで働きたくはない。
kazoku to no jikan o kezuttemade hatarakitaku wa nai.
I don't want to work going so far as to cut into my time with my family. neutral
徹夜までして仕上げたのに、結局ボツになっちゃった。
tetsuya made shite shiageta noni, kekkyoku botsu ni natchatta.
I pulled an all-nighter to get it finished and in the end it got scrapped. casual
他社の信用を傷つけてまで契約を取るつもりはございません。
tasha no shin'you o kizutsukete made keiyaku o toru tsumori wa gozaimasen.
We have no intention of winning a contract at the cost of damaging another company's good name. formal
Formation
{V-te}までattaches to て-form{N}までしてattaches to noun
Notes
speaker's to judge, so てまで normally leads into a denial, a criticism, or a
question rather than into approval.
Related patterns
Similar
Both name an extreme means, and the main clause decides which one you want — てでも declares the speaker will pay the price (借金してでも買う), while てまで judges the price too high and needs a negative or critical main clause, so 借金してまで買いたくない is idiomatic where ×借金してまで買いたい is not.
Both reject an extreme course, from opposite ends — くらいなら names a preferred alternative and takes it instead (行列に並ぶくらいなら帰る), while てまで offers no alternative at all and simply denies the goal was worth the cost (行列に並んでまで食べたくない).
Both mark a cost brushed aside, and they name opposite halves of it — てまで names the extreme ACT undertaken (借金してまで買う), もかまわず the OBSTACLE ignored (人目もかまわず泣く); てまで is reliably disapproving, while もかまわず only demands a verdict and can just as well admire (危険もかまわず飛び込んだ).
Lookalikes
Same まで, different attachment and opposite verdicts — までもない follows the dictionary form and says the action is UNNECESSARY (言うまでもない), while てまで follows the て-form and says someone actually went that far, at a cost the speaker disapproves of.
Same meaning
even if I have to; going so far as to
| Pattern | Attaches to |
|---|---|
| てでも |